[Tiếng Anh] Our Open Diary (Nhật Ký Mở)

Thảo luận trong 'Các vấn đề chung về chuyển ngữ' bắt đầu bởi conruoinho, 18/9/14.

  1. conruoinho

    conruoinho Gà ăn mày Gà về hưu Nhóm Chuyển ngữ

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    OUR OPEN DIARY

    This thread is created for all Gacsach.com members who are interested in participating in Our Open Diary project. Our Open Diary is a shared diary for members to write blog posts on thoughts on their current daily lives, news, events, etc. This thread is the only topic on Gacsach.com that allows members to write in English only.

    Rules:
    1. Each diary post or reply post, including post to correct each other’s spelling or Grammar, must contain a minimum of 100 words. Post with less than 100 words will be deleted.
    2. Post must be in English only. All other languages will be deleted.
    3. Post with teen code or teen language, or not following forum’s standard punctuation rules will be deleted.

    *****

    Chủ đề này được lập ra dành cho tất cả các thành viên của Gác Sách có hứng thú tham gia Nhật Ký Mở. Nhật Ký Mở là nhật ký chung dành cho thành viên viết nhật ký theo dạng blog về cuộc sống, tin tức, sự kiện hằng ngày, v.v. Nhật Ký Mở là chủ đề duy nhất trên Gác mà thành viên có thể “yêu tiếng Anh” nhiều hơn tiếng Việt.

    Quy định:
    1. Bài viết, cho dù là bài blog hay phản hồi để chỉnh sửa ngoại ngữ của nhau, đều phải có ít nhất 100 chữ. Bài viết dưới 100 chữ sẽ bị xóa.
    2. Bài viết chỉ được bằng tiếng Anh. Mọi ngôn ngữ khác sẽ bị xóa.
    3. Bài viết sử dụng ngôn ngữ teen hoặc không theo quy định chính tả chung của diễn đàn sẽ bị xóa.

    (Chỉ phần này có viết bằng tiếng Việt cho các bạn đều hiểu mục đích của chủ đề này thôi nhé. :) )

    Thân,
    Ruồi
     
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  2. conruoinho

    conruoinho Gà ăn mày Gà về hưu Nhóm Chuyển ngữ

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    SELECTED POST
    (The Moderator will select posts with remarkable content to list here.
    Người phủi bụi sẽ chọn những bài viết hay để dẫn link ở đây.)
    1. Journal entry by h.y, 19-Sep-2014
    2. Journal entry by quachngan99, 21-Sep-2014
    3. Journal entry by streetchick, 22-Sep-2014
    4. Homework entry by Trích Tiên, 26-Sep-2014
    5. Journal entry by Starlight, 27-Sep-2014
    6. Journal entry by libra_2000, 27-Sep-2014
    7. Book review entry about Colorless Tsukuru by conruoinho, 29-Sep-2014
    8. Thoughts about Love by ngothuys, 29-Sep-2014
     
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  3. Ivy_Nguyen

    Ivy_Nguyen ...quy ẩn... Gà về hưu Nhóm Tác giả

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    I tried my best to read all information and then I saw the followed translation! :v
    I thing this topic will be very good for us to practice English writing. I am not good in English Writing, so I really like this idea. Thanks Ms Small Fly for starting this topic. Hope everyone will be interted in this topic.

    I think the rule about 100 words is a litter bit strict. Because, if in my post has only one mistake, for example wrong sence, someone wants to help me correct it. She/he needs to tell me only one sentence: correct verb, it's wrong sence. Then this comment will not have enought 100 words, what's happen after that?
    This comment will be deleted? Or the writer will have to add more information (chating, writing a poem, or something...)?
     
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  4. xiaofang

    xiaofang Gà nhập Nhóm Chuyển ngữ Nhóm Tác giả

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    At first, welcome to our topic. You are the first one to post on this diary. <3
    You got some mistakes here:

    - Interted by this topic: Interested in this topic.
    - Finnally: Finally.
    - Enought: Enough.
    - I think the rule about 100 words a litter bit strict: This sentence is missing “is” between “words” and “a”, I think. “I think the rule about 100 words is a litter bit strict” is more correct.
    - It's worng sence: Wrong, my dear.

    Last but not least, yours first comment got 67 words, the second on got 74 words, why don’t you put it together? ;))
    About the “100 words rule”, I will answer you later, after consult with conruoinho who still sleeping right now. ;)
     
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  5. hmaster0142

    hmaster0142 Gà tích cực

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    I think those words need to be corrected. :P

    About 100-words rule, I think its purpose is to prevent spamming, right? If so, we can ask admin to restrict the lowest number of words allowed for this topic. It's gonna be a lot of comments afterwards, and counting number of words for each comment is not an easy thing to do. :)

    By the way, this topic is great. It reminds me of something I used to do before. :D
     
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  6. Ivy_Nguyen

    Ivy_Nguyen ...quy ẩn... Gà về hưu Nhóm Tác giả

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    Thanks for your comments. I will correct my last comment. As I said before, I am not good in writing, that's a reason why I am attending this topic.
    A huge dificulty for me, I often writing English in Microsoft word, it has soft ware or something to help me correct words and sometimes correct even grammar. But in here, every word that I've wroten has under line with red color. It's hard for reading and finding the mistake before I post the comment.
    And for the last, thanks for help me count all the words!
     
  7. libra_2000

    libra_2000 Gà BT Nhóm Chuyển ngữ

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    :DI really like this topic 'cause I'm quite bad at writing in English. Like Ivy_Nguyen, I had read all information in English before I saw the translation in Vietnamese. This feeling can't be called pleasure.
    Suggested by this post of Ms Leaf, I think we should write the translation of each post under the writing in English. This will help everyone know the main idea each member wants to transfer and can help them correct their mistakes consistently with situation. Besides, we can enrich our vocabulary from each post and don't need to use "google translate" to understand what people want to share with us.
    About the “100 words rule”, I think it is suitable. When you write something, you has to think carefully what you want to write before you start writing. For example, when you read short stories and you want to comment something in order to correct some grammatical mistakes of the authors and give advice to them, you have to think and write more than 100 words. This helps your post impress the authors and they will reply as soon as they read it. So this rule will allow you to express your idea in only one comment and make you think before you write something. Even when you want to correct wrong sentences of others, you should try to express what you want to advise and help others and indicate how to write something without making any mistakes.
    By the way, thank Ms Small Fly for this topic. I like the name Small Fly Ivy_Nguyen named for you.
     
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  8. hmaster0142

    hmaster0142 Gà tích cực

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    I think we don't need translation here, one of the reasons is that there're things I just wanna write and can only write in English. :P

    Using English makes me feel comfortable when talking about something more...emotional. Also easier to express my thoughts. Translate it into Vietnamese makes it sounds quite silly sometimes. The fact is I use almost everything on computers, phones, mails, games...with English interface. Using Vietnamese interface makes me confused. :D

    I also think no translation is good for self-learning English. If you want to understand, you will have to search the meaning of words you don't know by yourself. That's a good thing to do, because there's no shortcut to anything. That's my opinion. :)
     
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  9. Yu Cherry

    Yu Cherry Gà tích cực Nhóm Tác giả

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    Hello everybody!
    I think this is a good topic because it helps everyone practice English writing more and more. I know that there are a lot of people speaking English very well in this forum. But, I think rule with 100 words is not a good idea, because my English is not so good. I want to speak English with everyone, however, 100 words is too much for me.
    Next time, I hope you will change the rule to make it more appropriate for us to use.
    Finally, I wish grow topic and get the support of the members in the forum.
    Have a nice day!
    Dear.
     
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  10. streetchick

    streetchick Gà ăn bám Nhóm Chuyển ngữ ☆☆☆

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    You got some mistakes here. :3
    - This is good topic => This is a good topic.
    - It's help => It helps.
    - I know have a lot of people talk by English very well in this forum. Maybe "I know that there are a lot of people speaking English very well in this forum" is more correct.
    - Not good idea, because my English not so good => Not a good idea, because my English is not so good.
    - Talk English => Speak.
    - 100 words is so much with me => You can say, like, "100 words is too much for me".
    - In the next time => Next time.
    - For appropriate with => appropriate for + noun or appropriate to + verb. Maybe you can say "I hope you will change the rule to make it more appropriate for us to use."
    - I wish growing topic and getting the support of the members in the forum => I don't really understand this sentence. Did you mean you wished this topic would grow and get the support of all the members in the forum, right?
    Hope you will improve your English skills. :)

    (By the way, xiaofang, the word mistake is countable, so there should be a letter 's' here, right? :P)
    My opinion: This topic is quite good, it helps me to express my feelings, thoughts,... Also I need to improve my Writing Skills, and I'll be very appreciated if someone can point out my mistakes for me. :D

    Just a small question: How can we know whether we have written more than 100 words or not? ;;)
     
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  11. Ivy_Nguyen

    Ivy_Nguyen ...quy ẩn... Gà về hưu Nhóm Tác giả

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    I don't know, Ms xiaofang counted for me, so ask her! :P
    For the sentence
    I think she had the same idea with what you explained. Sorry, but damn it, I miss Microsoft office! Writing English here is a challenge for me.
    From what you worte, I guess your English writing is very good. Then, I will try to write down as much as I can, and hope you can help me correct them and help me learn more about writing skill.
     
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  12. conruoinho

    conruoinho Gà ăn mày Gà về hưu Nhóm Chuyển ngữ

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    xiaofang, Ivy_Nguyen, hmaster0142, libra_2000, Yu Cherry, streetchick:

    1. To answer the same question regarding 100-word rule:

    The main purpose of this topic is not to chat or merely to correct each other's spelling and grammar. It is to share your daily thoughts or personal view on anything, or even creative writing if you'd like. As you can see, post #2 is reserved for selected posts with remarkable or worth reading contents. It is not to say that you can't correct each other writing either. But if you really want to impress, why not add a few more sentences of your own thoughts of the day? A single post can always have two parts: helping with each other's writing and sharing your own writing. ;)

    How do you know if you have 100 words in your post? If you want to be exact, sure, you can write in MS Word and copy and paste here. The forum does have a code for word count but it will not be applied to this topic or any topic on gacsach.com at this point. On average, 100 words make up about 5 to 6 full lines in the Comment section in this thread (eg. the previous paragraph I just wrote is clearly more than 100 words. Does that seem like a lot?) If you don't feel like counting your words, just make sure you have at least 6 full lines of words in your post and you'll be safe. :P

    This rule is not made to be strictly enforced, but also not to be ignored. It is to prevent spamming and turning this thread into a chat room for English speakers. This means that the Moderator will not go into every single post and count the words. But the Moderator does have the authority to delete post should the purpose of the comments becoming regular chatting and does not meet the word count rule. It is also not to say that a post with good content but could only manage to have 99 words will be immediately deleted. The rule is there to encourage members to write more meaningful thoughts in every single post.

    Rules can be changed. However, it will not be changed before everyone at least take a shot at following it first. After all, you are here because you want to work on your English writing, why not push yourself a bit harder, mate?

    2. Ivy_Nguyen:
    There is no need to call each other with "Ms." or "Miss" or "Mr." prefixes. It sounds too formal and gives me some goosebumps. :P :D

    3. libra_2000
    I think having a translation is defeating the purpose of an English open diary. :)

    4. streetchick
    Please do not use the color red to highlight words when correcting errors. It is reserved for the admin team to write warnings only. Blue/green/orange/pink... are all there for use. :)

    I hope I have addressed everyone's question. Thank you for participating in this topic. It's quite exciting to see many posts already. I'm hoping that once we straighten out some of the questions everyone had, the posts will become more like a shared blog on your daily lives and thoughts. :)
     
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  13. Yu Cherry

    Yu Cherry Gà tích cực Nhóm Tác giả

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    Hey, I don't know that my comment is confusing. My English is not good. But I will try, try, and try to learn more. Actually, I'm very self-deprecating about my English pronunciation, such as distinguish tail "s" and "z" or "id", "t" or "d", etc...
    Now, I want to translating a short story by myself, however, I don't know where I start. :|
    This is a good topic. I like it so much. Thanks Ms. Small Fly for this topic! (Copy from Ivy_Nguyen)
    And now, I don't know what I can write down... :D

    Ahhh, thanks for finding my mistakes!
    Everyone, have a nice day! :oops:
     
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  14. conruoinho

    conruoinho Gà ăn mày Gà về hưu Nhóm Chuyển ngữ

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    Woaaaa, please do not call each other with Ms. Miss or Mr. here in this topic. It is too formal to address each other in a forum like Gac Sach. Calling each other by their nick name is more appropriate. I don't use the word "self-deprecating" very often. As a matter of fact, I don't even know what that means. But I guess you're talking about being anxious since you cannot speak some of the word ending correctly. Sorry that is something we cannot help you here since all we're doing is writing only. I suggest participating in school or local English clubs. Vietnamese is more aligning with French in regard that consonants being silenced at the word end, so maybe you'll have better luck learning French? :P

    As for translating a short story, you can begin by translating the first sentence of the story. One by one then it will be done. Ta-da! You can also post your translation here for everyone to review and help you improving your English, but you will have to translate more than one sentence (or at least 100 words) before you can post. :)
     
  15. h.y

    h.y Gà cận Nhóm Biên tập Nhóm Chuyển ngữ Nhóm Tác giả

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    h.y's journal 19-Sep-2014

    Well, sometimes I feel that because I go too easy on people, some of them kinda show me disrespect. Here is the thing. We have been playing in a group for about 2 years. To be more details, my group has 8 members, quite a lot, for me, personally to handle. We have tradition to celebrate each member birthday. Unfortunately, my birthday is in summer, when school is off and since not everyone is from Hanoi, so it is hard for us to all gather in my birthday. I understand that, somehow still upsetting, but I managed to accept it. But it was the situation of the first year. But in the second year, they were all in Hanoi, and still, they didn't show any concern about my birthday. But on another member's birthday, when we have school again, they planned to celebrate her birthday.
    Well, I don't know how to feel about that. Should I feel upset or not? Actually on the first year, I mentioned about how to celebrate my birthday when summer came a couple of time, and they said that they did know it so I didn't have to mention about that. So I did do what they said, and when I saw what they did (I mean they did nothing) then, I can't not stop myself from feeling that I am not important to them at all.
    To be honest, birthday is an important day to me, and I am very very upset and disappointed when they ignored it. But I don't want to be a burden when mentioning about it with them. There is lots of things I didn't say not because I feel nothing. When they tell me about planning another member's birthday, do they ever think about how I feel? And really, Am I being meanie for concerning about stuff like that?

    ****
    Well, I guess it's just, I think that when playing in group, everyone is equal. But now it may turn out to be not like that, so I am a little bit disappointed. Or maybe from the first start, I never be good at playing in a group which has more than 3 people. :(
     
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  16. xiaofang

    xiaofang Gà nhập Nhóm Chuyển ngữ Nhóm Tác giả

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    Nobody wanna be alone on their birthday, right?
    When the summer comes, they too busy with their plan to remember the others birthday. Year by year, i almost forgot my birthday. I don't care if is there anyone celebrate it or not.
    Nothing is matter, you can still have fun without them. If they celebrate just because you reminded them so many times, can you happy? For me, if they really care about me, they will remember by themself.
    My writing is so poor, i'm gonna end it from here. No one care about you more than yourself. Enjoy it, put those people aside.

    Praying there is no mistakes. [-O<
     
  17. meomai

    meomai Gà tích cực Nhóm Chuyển ngữ Nhóm Tác giả

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    I think you make some mistakes, such as this sentence: I don't care if is there anyone celebrate it or not; and this: can you happy?
    I suggest fixing them as following:
    -I don't care if is there anyone celebrate it or not--->...if there is...
    -
    Can you happy?---> can you feel happy? or can you be happy?
    -Nothing is matter---> nothing is the matter

    My English is not good. And i hope that all of my sentences are exactly true.:D
     
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  18. Catcat

    Catcat Why so serious? Nhóm Chuyển ngữ

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    Hehe, ok, let's me write something ;).
    1/ May be this post will be deleted because less than 100 words.
    2/ The biggest problem is how can i think and write down to meet the target 100 words without mistakes? :)
    3/ And give me one favour: please do not translate member's nick name into English, like Ms Leaf, Ms Small Fly... i think so funny and makes confusing. Just Lá or conruoinho, right? It's just the name, and no one should be explain or translate the name for easier.
    4/ Not much relevant, i just come back Gac after 10 busy days but my feeling and energy still slow down. So, what need to do to get back energy??? Huhuhu.
    conruoinho : correct my mistakes (if any) please. :D
     
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  19. quachngan99

    quachngan99 Gà BT Nhóm Chuyển ngữ Nhóm Tác giả

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    Wow, this topic is so cool. I think this is the opportunity for all of Gac's members to improve their English. And including me, of course. :D

    Well, today I'm very lazy to do my homework (Literature actually), and I decided to online Gac Sach for reading some news or topics, and I have found out this topic. Like I said, I really like this idea of Ms conruoinho. It helps me improve English a lot by reading those comments of yours and everybody else.

    This is all I want to say today. I hope it's enough 100 words (or maybe not). :v
     
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  20. conruoinho

    conruoinho Gà ăn mày Gà về hưu Nhóm Chuyển ngữ

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    Hi all,

    I have no intention of deleting anyone's post if there are spelling or grammar mistakes in English. If you re-read #1, you will see that the rule says to follow "standard punctuation" rule, ie. capitalizing at the beginning of a sentence, after a period, etc... There's no doubt all of us will make mistakes writing in English. After all, it's not our native language. So just chill, and be confident in our own writing ability, OK lah?

    ****

    Per Catcat's request:
    0/ let's me:
    --> let's = let us
    ==>This should be "let me".

    1/ May be this post will be deleted because less than 100 words
    --> May be = can be, allow to be,...
    Maybe= perhaps, probably, possibly,...
    --> Because less than 100 words: need a verb before "less".
    ==> Maybe this post will be deleted for being less than 100 words.
    Or
    Maybe this post will be deleted because it is less than 100 words.

    2/
    And give me one favour:...
    ==> And do me one favour:...
    Or
    And do me a favour...

    ... i think so funny and makes confusing...
    ==> I think it is so funny and confusing...
    Or
    I think it is so funny and confuses (others)...

    It's just the name, and no one should be explain or translate the name for easier.
    --> a vs. the
    ==> It's just a name, and no one should (need to) explain or translate the names to make it easier.

    4/ Not much relevant, i just come back Gac after 10 busy days but my feeling and energy still slow down. So, what need to do to get back energy??? Huhuhu.
    ==> Not really relevant, I just come back to Gac after 10 busy days but my feeling and energy are still down. So, what do I need to do to get energy back?
    (Hmm... not sure, drink Redbulls or coffee? :P)
    [​IMG]
     
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